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PARTICIPANTS: JACK SCAROLA BRAD EDWARDS VIRGINIA ROBERTS

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DATE: April 07, 2011

JS: Virginia, Jack Scarola and Brad Edwards

BE: Hi Virginia.

V: Hi Jack! Hi Brad! How you guys doing?

JS: | We’re doing fine, thank you. I’m sorry for all of the trouble and before we go any further, let me tell you, if I have your permission, I have started a tape recorder and | want to be able to tape this conversation from the very beginning. Is that alright with you?

V: Sure, that’s fine, Jack. No problem

JS: Ok, good, thank you. I appreciate that. Let me start off by introducing myself. I know that Brad has spoken to you about me but ] am Brad’s lawyer, and I assume that you can confirm that you and I have never had any communication before. Is that right?

V: That’s correct.

JS: Alright. I have, however, gotten some information from Brad about conversations that you have had with him, and that will enable me, hopefully, to make this a little bit more that we think is going to be helpful to us and to any jury that might ultimately have to hear these facts.

So, let me begin by asking you first to tell us what your full name is.

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a Louise Roberts. That's my maiden name. My married name is Virginia Louise

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Could you spell your last name for us? That is your married last name: eee

Alright, thank you, and where are you living right now?

I live in Australia.

And how long have you resided in Australia.

This is my 19" year.

That is where you are right now, correct? We’ve reached you in Australia for this phone conversation?

That is correct, yes.

And what time is if in Australia right now? I think it’s about 9:00 now.

Ok. That’s 9am, correct?

That’s correct.

Alright. Virginia, the reason for this conversation is because it is our understanding that you know a man by the name Jeffrey Epstein, and I want to begin by asking you please to tell us about the circumstances of your first meeting Mr. Epstein.

Ok. I was introduced to Mr. Epstein by Ghislaine Maxwell. I was working at Donald Trump’s spa in Mar-a-Lago and I was prompted by Ghislaine to come to Jeffrey’s mansion in Palm Beach that afternoon after work to make some extra money and to learn about massage. She met me at the spa, and I was reading a book about anatomy, so I was already interested in massage therapy as it was and not having any of the education or you know anything behind me, I thought this was a great opportunity to work for her and go. So, I went to Jeffrey’s mansion about 5 or 6 in the afternoon. My dad drove me there. My dad worked at Mar-a-Lago with mi, and he met Ghislaine and she seemed nike a nice, proper English lady, and she knows, [ mean, you know, one time then _once before I left to travel overseas, she just seemed really nice and like she would like to help me out. So my dad left, and I had no problem getting home that night, one of her drivers would take me back after my trial. So she led me upstairs, and into Jeffrey's bedroom, and past that is Jeffrey's massage room, which has got his steam room and a shower and a massage table, and there is actually an extra room that has, that nobody knows about it, it’s kinda like a secret room and it’s got a whole bunch of decorative pictures of pornographic literature and sex toys andi can__?___—s what happened in there.

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When you say that the room was hidden, Virginia, how was the room concealed?

It wasn’t like a door that you would normally go into, like some kind of special opening, you open that and then a little door, so it looks like it’s a little closet so-to-speak, but when you walk in there, it’s obviously a lot bigger than just a closet. It wasn’t too big, but it was bigger, you know. It wasn’t a gigantic room, it was just like a small room, which you know, it probably could fit some shoes in there, it had racks of shoes, boxes, some sweatshirts neatly folded, and the ceiling to the floor was covered in pornographic pictures of the girls that he had met.

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So anyways, that was getting there, and I was introduced to Jeffrey, he was laying naked on top of the massage table, and obviously for one, I’m a 15 year old girl and seeing him on the table was weird but, also learning about anatomy and massage, I thought this would be part of it. So obviously, I thought it was part of the massage program, so I said ok, this is fine. And, he then instructed me on how to touch the body, Jeffrey’s body, how to massage him, and for the first hour, it was actually a real massage, maybe not an hour, maybe like 40 minutes or something, but of something like that _and that’s when he turned over on the other side and to expose himself fully. So then Ghislaine told me that she wanted me to undress and began to take off my shirt and skirt, my white uniform from Mar-A-Lago, she also took off her shirt and got undressed, and so I was there with just my undies on, and she was completely bare, and made some kind of little flake about the underwear that I was wearing because it wasn’t my normal sexy girl underwear and just like, I don’t know, had red hearts on it or something like that; just your normal, you know, real cute underwear. Anyways, so during all of this I’m kind of like what’s going on, how do I act, what do I say, | was so afraid of, not afraid or fearful for my life but _unsure of how all this started and wanting to obtain a profession_ 1 was so afraid thinking about upsetting and disappointing them, I don’t know, it’s a weird situation by far and I was expected to Lick his nipples, instructed on how to do so by J.E_ and give him oral sex while he wanted to fondle me, and then at the end, I was told by Ghislaine to get on top and straddle Jeffrey sexually, and when we were done, we went and had a shower in the room and Jeffrey told me to wash him up and down, you know with a bar of soap and make sure he was all cleaned up. And then he took me downstairs and took

Let me interrupt you for just a moment there if I could, Virginia. You mentioned as you were recounting those details that you were 15 years old at the time. What is your date of birth?

August 9", 1983

And can you tell us please, as best you're able to estimate it, what the date was when this first encounter occurred?

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I’ve got it written down. It’s like - I’m not good with math — hold on —I thought I wrote it down but I didn't. I'm not too sure, I think it was 1998 off the top of my head and around June of 1998, I would say as I was turning 16 at the end of the summer.

Alright. You talked about the room where Jeffrey had the pornographic photographs. Did you actually see that room on the occasion of your first visit there?

No, I got to see that room a few visits after but I was just trying to describe that room to you guys so you knew exactly what room I was talking about.

Another question for you, and I don’t mean to be prying into your personal life, and if I ask you any questions at all that you’re uncomfortable answering, then you just tell me that and we'll move on, because I appreciate your cooperation and the last I thing I want to do is impose upon that cooperation, but can you tell us please just generally what kind of sexual experience you had had prior to this confrontation with Jeffrey?

Yeah, sure. A close family friend has sexually abused me, and I was on the streets at 13 years old. I was picked up by a 67 year old man named Ron _Eppinger_ who did exactly what Jeffrey did with me abuse and violate my youthfulness _ & I was with him for 6 months. So, he was gone and then I had this boyfriend who was like my school friend from young days but we just kept in contact with each other and we were on and off constantly, and that was Tony Figeroua_, and there was also another younger guy was near my age, Michael, I can’t remember his last name, but yeah, there, | mean, there wasn’t like a string of men or anything, but there was Ron, like I told you, and he was the first guy expecting me to do so-called disgusting affairs. Jeffrey actually knew Ron, which was quite weird when I told Jeffrey the story about Ron, and Jeffrey had actually met him, and yeah. Anyway, just another story, and yeah, there were a couple of men, but that gives you an idea.

Now when you described the photographs in the room as pornographic, tell me just a little bit about the photographs, if you would please? First, how many of them were there?

At least 100, and like I said, they covered the room from the ceiling, not the ceiling but from the top of the edge of the wall to the bottom of the floor. I want to say at least a

photographs, like the large size, some of naked women posing, you know, positions, sexy positions. Others were, you know, some girls had bikinis on, and it wasn’t so pornographic, but it was all women, and it was all in a sexual nature.

Were there photographs where more than one person appeared?

Oh yeah, plenty of them. There were lots of naked photographs, I mean I was just trying to give you a visual range. There was anything from 5x6s to 4x8s to 8x4s. Some of them

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had frames, some of them were out of frames, but they were all, like I said, they were all women, they were all sexual in nature.

Was it your impression that there were a hundred photos of a hundred different people or were there multiple photos of the same woman or girl?

There was definitely a lot of different girls. I mean it wasn’t easy to sit there and say, you weren’t finding 5 girls out of some photos, no. Were there a hundred different ones? There could have been pictures of some girls, I really couldn’t get close necessarily to actually recognize faces or anything like that. But if you, you know, the range of them were all different, majority of them were different, yeah.

Did there ever come a point in time when you became aware that a photograph of you had been added to the collection?

Yes, there was. Ghislaine took several nude photographs of me for Jeffrey. So, yeah, there were pictures of me and there were pictures, he wasn’t shy, that wasn’t the only place in his house that he kept the photos. He liked photos all over his house. If you looked in his den or on his desk or in on the hall table, a giant hall table in his house, there were at least a hundred photos of girls in frames. Not all of them were naked, a lot of the ones that were all around his house were not naked girls posing pornographically, some were pictures of celebrities and politicians he had known_or things like that or had pants on or whatever, but yeah, there was a lot of mixed photographs in the outside ones.

Were there any photographs of girls or young women that you knew or that you subsequently came to know that you saw in the house?

Yeah, yeah, there was. There was pictures of Nadia Bjournik , pictures Sarah Keller, pictures Emmy, pictures of me, pictures of the regulars, but a lot of the girls, sometimes Jeffrey could have like 7 girls a day, and he would only see those girls once if he got bored. I don’t know. These weren’t my days. I heard he’s gotten a lot sloppier since I left. So, I don’t know anyways, but when I knew him, there was just a, it seemed, there was such an influx of girls coming in and out, so did I recognize a lot of them? Maybe, maybe not, but then they were all definitely beautiful, they were all ranging in age, some of them young, some of them older in their 20’s, I mean it was just they were all beautiful.

You've told us about the first visit. Was there any discussion on the occasion of that first visit about your returning?

Yes, they were very pleased with me and after the encounter was finished, the sexual encounter, he went and told me I did well and I have a lot of potential to become a massage therapist and if I’d like I could return tomorrow, you know, and do the same thing and get paid $200/hr, so Jeffrey insisted that I come after work, and over the next few days, I guess the relationship grew into more, and within a couple of weeks, not even

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a couple of weeks, maybe a week, I had quit Mar-a-Lago and ] was working for Jeffrey full time.

Ok, let’s talk about your job at Mar-a-Lago, if we could. You said that your Dad was working there. What was his position at Mar-a~-Lago?

He was a maintenance supervisor | think is what it was called? He like managed the tennis courts and air conditioners and things like that.

What is your Dad’s full name?

Sky William Roberts.

And is he still living here in South Florida now? No, he’s not, he’s in California.

Ok. Is your Dad aware of what is currently going on with regard to your having made public statements about your relationship with Jeffrey?

Yes, he is well aware of it. 1 told my family even before all this stuff came out, because they were the first ones contacted by the journalists from Mail on Sunday. I know that they the Mail on Sunday printed that J had gone out and tried to, I mean J think one of the photos said that 1 was angry that I saw Jeffrey and the Prince walking together and that is why I came out and went public with everything. Not true. I mean, J am angry about how they are still up to their old ways together and that they’re still hanging out but I didn’t contact the Mail on Sunday and | didn’t bring it out. 1 figured that everyone was going to bring it out anyway and I better bring it out the right way. He’s known everything from the start, and my family is very supportive with everything going on.

I'm kind of going to jump around a little bit and I apologize for that, but since the subject has come up, tell me first of all why you are providing this cooperation to us, and I am certainly very appreciative of it, but I want you to tell us why it is you’ve chosen to spend time with us on the telephone and provide this information that you’re now providing.

I’m out to help the bigger picture, you know, I think all of us can make a big difference in

a lot of other people’s lives and T think that this has gone on Jong enough and it’s a big

slap in my face that he can get away with hurting me so bad let alone so many other girls and laugh about it. I guess I talked to you guys out because 1 want to see the right thing happen, not just to him, but J want people in the world to understand this is not the way of life, you know, it’s not acceptable to go out procure young girls and make them think that, this is the way you should be living and that’s all. Yeah, 1 guess my reason for doing it is to help the bigger picture, you know, I’m a big believer in karma and I believe that good things will come back to you, so | guess that’s why I’m doing this.

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Just for the record, neither Brad, nor I, nor anyone representing that they have anything to do with us has made any promises to you. Is that correct?

That is correct. I’ll tell you, since this is our first conversation, that nobody has made me feel like I’ve been bribed or bought or had to say anything. I’ve told you anything that I know from my own self, not some things somebody told me. If anything, Brad’s been extra careful not to tell me anything and let me do all the talking, so it’s quite opposite | think.

Alright. Let’s get back then to the story of your relationship with Jeffrey, and we’ve talked about your first encounter with him and how it evolved from that into your full

time employment with Jeffrey, but what were you doing at Mar-a-Lago before you quit Mar-a-Lago?

I was just a locker room attendant and sometimes I did babysitting for the rich and famous. So, I wasn’t anything big. I worked in the spa area. That’s why I was studying anatomy, because I was really really interested in becoming a _massage therapist_, and at the locker room, I didn’t do much. I mean J was making tea for a living, | would, you know, make sure the toilet paper had a little triangle in it after everybody went to the toilet, or wipe down the water from the basin, you know, it was a very easy peasy job.

Did you get that job through your Dad? Yes, my Dad got me the job.

Ok, and you were only 15 years old at the time, were they aware of how old you were at Mar-a-Lago?

Of course, definitely. We had to go through extensive, you know, we even had to get drug tested and id test and so on and so forth. I mean, Mantas (?) is very strict on employment, yeah, everybody knew.

Ok. Was there ever any conversation with Ghislaine about how old you were before you were taken to Jeffrey's mansion?

No. She didn’t ask me how old 1 was from the start, but when I did get to Jeffrey’s

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During the entire hour of what | call the legitimate massage I was giving him, it was cat and mouse games getting information from me to find out who I am, am | a willing participant in these kind of things, and how would | react if they were about to take the next step. But they got information off of me, they got my age, they got my, a little bit of my history so they knew [ was, you know, not very stable at home, and they knew that,

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you know, I was actually interested in making my life better by studying so what they were offering me was a chance to become a legitimate masseuse but it was getting trained. They would have people show me how to work the body and be called a massage therapist and get me books on it, and you know, keep me interested, and every time, you know, I was with Jeffrey, literally was about massages, I don’t mean just going in and have sex with him. I mean massage, because it would always start out with massage and then it would lead into sometimes other things.

Alright, once this evolved. into full time employment, what did full time employment mean?

That was entirely having to travel with Jeffrey in every city. When he was in Palm Beach, I stayed at my apartment, and he would call me to his house once or twice a day sometimes, and that’s, you know, do things with him. Sometimes we’d go out shopping, sometimes we'd go out and watch a movie. You know, simple things like that, go to an expo or a fair, whatever it was. But when we were in other cities, | was at my apartment_, I lived with him full time. What I mean by full time is even in the middle of the night, I could get a ring on my phone next to me and tell me to come in his room, you know, so it was literally full time.

When you say that when you were in Palm Beach you were living in your apartment, were you living on your own or were you living with members of your family at that

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No, after I quit Mar-a-Lago, Jeffrey offered to get me an apartment in Palm Beach somewhere, Royal Palm Beach, and it was a nice apartment. He furnished it for me, it was absolutely beautiful, but yeah, that’s the only time I would spend time away from him really.

This apartment was on Royal Palm Beach Boulevard or out in the Village of Royal Palm Beach?

I so honestly don’t remember. I’ve been trying to rack my brain because the FBI was asking the same thing and were trying to find it, but yeah, I’m Not sur_. | didn’t get to spend as much time in it, I was only there about an entire week out of every month probably, but the majority of the time I was with Jeffrey anyways. It was somewhere in

Royal Palm Beach. [don’t know about Royal Palm Beach drive. 1 don’t even remember the Royal Palm Beach drive anymore so I’m not too sure.

Ok, let me see if I can draw the distinction for you and maybe that will help you to help us? Royal Palm Beach is a village that is...

No, no, no, I got Royal Palm Beach, I just didn’t know the Royal Palm Beach Drive, like what street it’s off of. Were you talking about a street?

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Yes, I was talking about a street. Royal Palm Drive is on the island of Palm Beach, and it’s a street that is lined with large royal palm trees, and I’m wondering if this was an apartment on the island or was this an apartment out west of town...

No, it was actually in Royal Palm Beach, not on the island. Alright.

I would be driven, it was closer to my family than it was closer to him. | wanted to be close enough to everybody else so that when I was in town, I could just go see them quickly.

Ok. So we’re not talking about Royal Palm Boulevard. We're talking about the town of Royal Palm west of town. Jeffrey got you an apartment out there.

That’s correct.

When he was in Palm Beach, you were generally not staying at the mansion, you were staying at the apartment that he got for you out west of town.

That’s correct. Ok.

I mean then there was times, I don’t wanna say that every time I stayed at my apartment. There was times we'd fly back from some city maybe too late at night to really want to go back home, so you know, it’s like 12:00 at night or 1:00 in the morning. I was just staying in the yellow room, or something like that; one of the guest rooms in Palm Beach. But majority of the time, 1 would definitely want to get back to my own apartment.

Alright. What were the general hours of your full time employment when ...?

There was not set hours. It wasn’t like logging, and you know, hitting the shift button, nothing like that. The way I would get paid would be, ok, if I was in Palm Beach, I would get $200 an hour to massage Jeffrey or some of his friends and then go home. So it would be like that. If I was traveling with him, it would be per massage, so I would be

getting paid per day. So T wouldn’t be getting paid on an hourly rate”He wouldnt say ok, today you’re going to work for me from 7:00 in the morning until 8:00 at night. It never like that. I was on call all the time.

When you were here in Palm Beach, were you actually getting paid only for the time spent massaging Jeffrey or were you getting paid from your arrival at his house until you

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From the time the massage started.

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From the time the massage started. Ok.

Sometimes we'd go there and I would wait for a while or talk with Ghislaine and Jeffrey about something or we’d meet somewhere and talk about something. A lot of times, I’d meet him upstairs in his room where he was ready for me. But then there was a lot of times where it didn’t start right away, so he couldn’t really pay me from the time I got there sometimes unless it was just paid from the time I massaged him til the time the

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Alright. Did your duties for Jeffrey ever include anything other than providing him massages and sex in connection with the massages? Did he ever give you any other responsibilities to perform?

I was asked to do the same things that I did to Jeffrey to a few of his fellow colleagues as well. Those were my duties. He looked at it this way is that | was going to be a professional massage therapist, and maybe I needed some clientele, so he had me perform erotic massages on a few people.

Did that start here in Palm Beach County? It did. The first one did.

Ok, and how long after you first met Jeffrey did he first ask you to provide services for one of his friends?

About 9 months, I think it was. It wasn’t a full year, it wasn’t 6 months, but between 6 months and a year, which is why I’m saying 9 months.

And when you provided services to a friend of Jeffrey’s, who paid you for those services?

Jeffrey would. I would get paid the next time I saw Jeffrey, so if 1 was invited to the Breakers Hotel to give a massage, I would give a massage, I would go home, and the next day when I saw Jeffrey, he would pay me for what I did. So, it was paid always by him, it was set up by him, so he always knew what to pay me. I did get tips and things like that, if you call it that, you know, like a hundred dollar tip or something from a few of them, you know, yeah. 7

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Was there ever any discussion with Jeffrey about what was expected to happen when you provided massage services to one of Jeffrey’s friends?

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In a roundahout way, yes. In so many ways, Jeffrey really really had to train me, and that was why Ghislaine said that she and Jeffrey enjoyed me so much was because they never really had to speak much to me to tell me what they wanted me to do. You know, I wasn’t waiting for you know, their directions. Jeffrey would tell me to go give an erotic massage to friends. He wouldn’t give me much detail about it, but he would say to treat them like you treat me.

Did he refer to it as an erotic massage or are those your words?

Erotic massage is my words. That's exactly what it was, but he would tell me to treat them how he wanted it, so I'd do what he wanted without having to say to me words more. ] mean, I complied with what he wanted because it was somewhat of a, I don’t know, I don’t know how to say it, it was just very mindboggling how I let him have so much control or power over me basically. The massages would be routine to what Jeffrey wanted with my so called new clientele, and with their own words would ask me to provide them with sexual pleasure after the massage.

Did you ever report back to Jeffrey about what happened when you provided massages to his friends?

Of course, of course, and I knew that his friends were reporting back to him as well because there were times where he would instigate conversation by saying you know, so and so had a great time, you did wonderful, you know so and so gave me a call and told J.E how it went_...

Did Jeffrey ever elicit details from you? “Tell me what happened, describe in detail what went on?”

No, but he would have a laugh, he had a laugh with me a few times about some of their different mannerisms, 1 guess you would say, like some of them, one guy had a foot fetish and that was really weird and I mentioned it to Jeffrey, and we would have a laugh over it. He didn’t want to know details. He wasn’t asking me “so tell me what did you guys do exactly.” No, he just basically gave me a slap on the back and said, you know, good job. And we had some kind of conversation about it. I can’t recall any conversation off the top of my head. I really don’t know one. It’s been that long. But yeah, we did talk about it briefly.

Can you give me an estimate as to the number of friends for whom Jeffrey provided and paid for your services?

There was about, you know, I don’t know, 8 guys possibly.

And are you able to name those people for me?

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No, not at this stage. I just, some of these people are really influential in power, and I don’t want to start another shitstorm with a few of them. I’ll tell you that there was some erotic massages given to, I’m just afraid to say it to you.

Ok, Virginia. It’s like geez, I don’t know if I want to, Pm really scared of where this is gonna go.

Alright. I understand that, and as I told you from the beginning, if I ask you a question that you are uncomfortable answering, you just tell me that, and I will move on, and I understand that at least right now, you are uncomfortable answering, and | am certainly going to respect that.

Thank you so much, Jack.

No, that’s quite alright. I am very appreciate of the cooperation you are providing, and I don’t want you at any time to feel that we are taking unfair advantage of that cooperation, so give me the information that you’re comfortable giving me, and if we get to a point where you're uncomfortable, I will respect that and we'll move on from there.

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I want to talk a little bit about the traveling that you did with Jeffrey. About how long into your relationship with him did that first start?

Immediately. I started traveling immediately. Not internationally until I think about, Gosh, I can’t remember even, I think it was a year later that we started doing international travel. Maybe like 9 months to a year again. Not too sure to be honest.

So that would have been approximately the summer of 1999? Somewhere around there?

Yes. Somewhere around there. Somewhere around a year, somewhere around there, I can’t pinpoint it exactly. But like I said, we started doing domestic traveling immediately, so my first destination with him was New York and Santa Fe and the Carribean, California, I would take trips with him occasionally. Sometimes we would go

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Well, we took Jeffrey’s private jet, and unless I was being sent somewhere by myself for what we were just talking about before, then I would travel on a what do you call, a

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Yes. Just a normal flight, an e-ticket. Like the rest of us common folk. But when I was traveling with Jeffrey, the majority of the time would be on the black jet.

Now, when you say there would be times when you would travel by yourself because he was sending you somewhere, tell me about that. How did that come about?

So, one of his colleagues would be at the Carribean or Santa Fe or even New York, or wherever, and he would call me up on those days where I am not working with him or in Palm Beach with him, and he would ask me to get on the next plane to so and so and go meet so and so, and that’s when I would take e-tickets. His secretary or special assistant, whatever, would organize it for me and give me the details and ] would just walk up the line and they’d let me right through.

Can you give me any ideas as to how many times it happened that Jeffrey would send you off to meet some friend of his at some location outside of Palm Beach?

How many times it happened? I’m not too sure. Probably about 10-15 times.

Ok. And on those occasions, how much time would you spend with one of Jeffrey’s friends when you were sent to a location that you would have to travel to?

Only a couple of days. Only 2 days, that’s it.

And how were you paid for those trips?

I would be paid in cash upon my arrival back with Jeffrey. So, whenever I was back with Jeffrey, he would count up how many days I’ve had, sometimes give me even more than what I deserved, not deserved, but what I earned and give me a little extra.

Was there a daily rate for those trips or was that per massage also?

Per massage. With Jeffrey, | would be honest. I wouldn’t tell him I did 15 massages if I

didn’t. He knew he could trust me. He could always come back to the other person that he sent me to give massages and ask them as well, so you know, it was always by per massage.

Alright. When we've been talking about massages, tell me exactly what it is we're talking about when we speak about massages.

Same thing I would do to Jeffrey. Again, it would start out as a massage, which would start with them being naked, and me giving him a legitimate massage to begin with, so

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I'd start with his feet, go up to his calves, up his legs, buttocks, back, his neck, his head, his arms, yada yada, and then it would be time to flip over, and some of the men would want me to continue on massaging the front side of them and they would instigate me to begin having sex with them or foreplay, whatever you want to call it.

So routinely, these massages involved sexual activity. Is that accurate?

That is accurate.

Ok. Let's talk about the travel that you were involved in when you were on Jeffrey’s private plane. Generally speaking, who were the passengers on the plane when you traveled.

Well, Larry was the pilot, and then there was a short, small solid guy, I don’t know his name, but he was a co-pilot, and then he changed and there was another guy brought in later on. Generally speaking, there was always Jeffrey, sometimes Ghislaine, sometimes Emmy, sometimes a whole bunch of other girls, sometimes famous people, sometimes some politicians or yeah, just about anybody could fly on his plane. There was never no any set routine who would come and who would go. It was an influx of people on Jeffrey’s airplane.

I want to deal with these things separately in order to respect some of the reservations that you have, so I’m going to ask you who the people were that you remember flying with Jeffrey on his plane when you were personally present without regard to whether there was any sexual activity that occurred on the plane or not. So I’m not asking you to implicate any of these famous people in improper conduct, but just tell me what the names of the people are that you remember that you consider to be famous people.

Ok, there was Naomi Campbell, Heidi Klum, there was Bill Clinton. There was Al (7) Gore, there was a whole bunch of models, I wouldn’t really honestly be able to give their names. There was Matt Groning the producer of the simpons cartoon, Jack CCousteau’s granddaughter a lot of interior designers, architects, politicians. [ am just trying to think of as many names as possible for you. Off the top of my head, that’s as good as I can get for now.

Ok, alright, that’s fine. And again, I am not implying by my questions, nor do I want

your answers to be interpreted as your Suggesting that any of those people that you have —

just identified were engaged in any improper activities on any particular flight, but I want to talk to you now about what went on on occasion on the airplane. Ok?